One of the most hotly debated argument when it comes to proving or dis-approving God is “How The Universe was Created?”
Let me begin by saying that I do not think God made this universe in six days and I also conclude that it might have taken billions of years for evolution to take control of our planet.
Thus saying do I concur with science? yes I do.
Do I negate the Biblical story, no. I can only assume that thousands of years ago, man did not have the unblinking, revealing nature and reality of the cosmos.
Do I think that it is an error? certainly not. All discovery is limited by our own perceptions. The Bible is filled with poetry and metaphorical language and though I am sure that there is no hidden pattern or clues hidden in it for a higher truth than the knowledge of science about our universe. I am sure that most of the biblical language is not be taken and interpreted literally, it should be within its context, translated and understood.
So then where does that leave us on the creation case? First of all since one outside of Christianity would not view Bible as an authentic source I would not bring it in the debate except for obvious references.
AN ATHEIST VIEW:
HOW DID GOD CREATED SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING? IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
The above is one of the many arguments that are thrown out at the Biblical case of Creation. Let me say that while I agree with the argument as it is a matter of fact, I can not understand some of the implications it produces.
1. For something to be created it has to have a beginning. since everything falls in the measuring tape of time, matter can not be produced from nothing since that would cancel the scientific fact and the atheist’s belief.
So to follow the atheist view, at some point in time, matter was formed. How it was formed? is a question that no scientist or atheist for that matter can answer. and for this argument to hold true. we have to assume position that matter was already present, since the whole argument is that it can not be created from nothing. where did it come from? no one knows and that begs the question about its origins.
Stephen Hawking in his book “A Brief History of Time” writes about the origins of our universe and he demonstrates the limits of our knowledge in Chapter: “Space and time” pages 14 to 19. Now don’t get me wrong. Hawking does not say that the Bible is right. in fact he only tells us how it is impossible for us to know things that happened beyond a certain event of time.
an excerpt from the book. please read the above specified pages to read the enitre context.
“Given an event P, one can divide the other events in the universe into three classes. Those events that can be reached from the event P by a particle or wave traveling at or below the speed of light are said to be in the future of P. They will lie within or on the expanding sphere of light emitted from the event P. Thus they will lie within or on the future light cone of P in the space-time diagram. Only events in the future of P can be affected by what happens at P because nothing can travel faster than light.
Similarly, the past of P can be defined as the set of all events from which it is possible to reach the event P traveling at or below the speed of light. It is thus the set of events that can affect what happens at P. The events that do not lie in the future or past of P are said to lie in the elsewhere of P.
What happens at such events can neither affect nor be affected by what happens at P. For example, if the sun were to cease to shine at this very moment, it would not affect things on earth at the present time because they would be in the elsewhere of the event when the sun went out.
We would know about it only after eight minutes, the time it takes light to reach us from the sun. Only then would events on earth lie in the future light cone of the event at which the sun went out. Similarly, we do not know what is happening at the moment farther away in the universe: the light that we see from distant galaxies left them millions of years ago, and in the case of the most distant object that we have seen, the light left some eight thousand million years ago. Thus, when we look at the universe, we are seeing it as it was in the past.”
What Hawking means is that light is the only source to see in the past or the future and as nothing travels faster than light than it is safe to assume that we can see events happening in the past only when the light energy radiated from them reaches us. But it also implies events that may as well occur outside of the cone of past and present and even beyond the reach of light since light tends to fade the farther it goes from its source. so if an event is to occur outside the cone or beyond the cone of time than we could not see it.
So it is suffice to say that an atheist can not tell you how matter originated for the first time. As Hawking describes, since the origin happened before we could actually trace it in time and since it is impossible to calculate, it doesn’t matter since whatever happened can not alter in any way the present. Now this argument may define the case as rested for science but it lacks answer. to their original argument. how did matter originate? if it was there for eternity, we have no proof of that. and since one can not look back in time, a scientific follower simply assumes that matter can only be the result of preexisting matter, no matter how blank his data may be.
2. If God made everything out from nothing than who made God? since everything created must have a creator. that begs the question about God?
Now here is the second argument and it is very clever indeed. God created everything, a Christian would even go far as to say that even time is something that was designed by God. Now we can think of a simple Bible reader eager to defend his faith to be in error but in truth I have found every other story to have its own drawbacks as well. For the question of knowing about God – one must step outside of the scientific realm and calculate the possibilities of a God.
What if like the diagram above, I put God way past the point of light in the past cone. so technically if there was to be a God, we can not see him, just as we can not see how the universe and matter originated for the first time.
Now someone can say that it all started with a black hole and a huge supernova, agreed, but that is merely an assumption of how it may have originated, since it is impossible to know otherwise, we are not even sure if the Big Bang actually happened at all.
So what if hypothetically, God made everything from his own existence. One can say in a vague sort of way that if God is to be pure energy it might have had power to do so. And God is so far back in time that it is impossible scientifically to locate him. Then one can say that, yes. Something can be created, not from nothing but from God it self. Just like a part of himself.
So who made God? hmm, I would take the liberty here, not from the Bible and not from science either but by logic itself.
If following science, matter can exist in eternity since nothing can be made from nothing. It had to exist. Taking that same approach I come to the conclusion that for everything to be created it has to have a creator since nothing can be created from nothing (as science says) and someone had to create it and I say it was God’s own self that formed the universe. life from life, power from power. for something to start it needs a trigger to be pulled and therefore for a kick start, God would be needed. he must exist, simple kinetics demand it.
because if matter can exist in eternity, why not God? since both are hidden and proven beyond observed time – impossible to trace to their origins.
Soon I will be discussing the Intelligent Design argument as well.