Time to doodle. Yeah, I have been wanting to do this for sometime now, and hopefully I will make more if I get good ideas to share with you what I feel. Let me know what you think.
So the other day I was engaged in an argument with a fellow poster. A nice guy who knew what he was talking about. So we come to the old question about Morality. His responses are in Italics.
I think subjectivity is simply inconsistent so I rejected subjective morality early on. He however was in the opposite corner. In between our conversation, I said “Stealing is wrong”. Now listen to this, he says:
If I define stealing as ‘wrongfully taking what doesn’t belong to you’, then it’s wrong by definition. Then, the problem is reduced to our theory of good or our idea of what makes something right or wrong. And also, it helps to establish what qualifies as ownership.
The statement was:
“… something is correct if the majority says it’s correct and if society chooses to enforce that rule.”
When I asked him that would he stand by the same rule, if applied to WWII Nazi Germany and the resulting Holocaust?
I was met with silence.
Am I the only one or you also think that there is something completely wrong with this statement?
In fact to be honest, it’s not only, not right, it’s not even wrong, it’s retarded.
Hi Rachel, If I may inject my own perspective here, I am going to address some of the points you made here https://johnadavid.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/will-god-not-accept-us-in-his-kingdom-if-we-sin-as-christians/#comment-72,
I am going to break it down. It is going to be a long post. I think we should go step by step. Lets define what we are addressing. In this post, I am talking about sin, the average joe, Hitler and forgiveness. How God treats sinners and the things related to it. Next we’ll move to confession, repentance, being sorry and being saved. I think the below should be enough to be digested first, through and through and then we will proceed forward. I would appreciate if you can keep your thoughts to the points I have discussed, we will get on with the others a little later.
I am not asking you to to accept theism as truth but namely that what are your thoughts on the following?
What I am NOT looking for is:
As per my posts on atheist morality, the argument has now been pushed from “atheism is more moral than religion” to “Secularism has resulted in higher moral standards than religion.”
So I thought it is worthwhile to analyze this argument and see if we can find that “Objective Morality” that atheists claim only exist in atheism, however since they could not prove it conclusively with atheism, they have broadened the term to secularism. I do not think they are playing word games with me rather they naturally think within the limits of atheism that anything but religion can be good.
The purpose of my argument is not to conclude that religion has the sole key to higher moral standards.
My purpose is to find out whether secularism results in any higher moral standards than religion. On a upclose view i find the given statement actually errant, it is based on faulty logic, now don’t think I am trying to evade the question, I will explain it to you.
Ok guys, I admit, I was having fun with atheists in my last “The Atheist Morality: A Parasitical Existence”
I got some very interesting feedback from it. I would also like to apologize as it offended some people that I took a funny shot at the atheists, accusing them partially (some of it was serious and true enough) and misrepresenting their position (actually not all positions I listed were my own or derived, most of them are held by eminent modern atheists).
One particular response I got was from Mr. Joseph Nevard, while you can read his comment on my previous post, he invited me to visit his blog. I do not know Mr. Nevard otherwise and it would be wrong of me to make assumptions but I think he believes in atheism (I could be wrong but that would not affect the following) and read his post he had directed me towards.
The modern atheists (much like the primitive atheists) are always more than eager to attack the moral structure of religion, namely Christianity. Islam and Judaism should be next on their lists but seldom heard, anyways.
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